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Name:
Ernest James Luscombe1
Sex:
Male
Father:
Mother:
Birth:
6 Jun 1882
St Aubyn, Devonport, Devon2
Address: 2 St Aubyn Ope
His father's name is not shown on the Birth Certificate. However, based on the known use of Northcott as the second given name for Ernest's half-brother - Henry Northcott Luscombe - it is assumed that Ernest's father was a Snell, although this was never referred to in family oral history which was the source for the use of Northcott. Oral history (Harry Kenneth Luscombe) says that John Luscombe (Yeoman of Signals) was Ernest's father but this was a purely mythical individual presumably invented by their mother and used as the father on Ernest's and Henry's Marriage Certificates.
Using the 1881 Census a search was made for the likely father based on the assumptions that it was someone who was local, was about Amelia's age and probably unmarried. This produced three possible candidates:
1 James Snell aged 22 who was a Driver in the Royal Horse Artillery stationed at the New Granby Barracks in Stoke Damerel. He was born in Bedham, Essex.
2 James J. Snell aged 24 who was a Smith in Devonport Dockyard and lodged with James Neale's family at 5 Charlotte Row, Stoke Damerel. He was born in Devonport.
3 William Snell aged 25 who was an Able Seaman in the Royal Navy and at the time of the Census was lodging with Anne Pike at 127 Albert Road, Devonport. He as born in Devonport. His ship is not known.
Of these William is considered the least likely as at the time of conception (September 1881) he could have been at sea. In addition as Ernest's second Christian name was James it is more likely that one of the Jameses was the father. The most probable reason for Amelia not being forced into marriage was that when her condition beame evident the father was no longer in the neighbourhood. This tilts the balance of probability towards James the soldier as being the father.
His mother was working as a domestic servant; whether she was living at home with her parents is not known, however, Ernest was born at her parents' home.
Birth Registration:
18 Jun 1882 (age 0)
register office for the Stoke Damerel District3
Address: Devon
Census (living with grandmother):
5 Apr 1891 (age 8)
1891 Census. Living with grandmother
Occupation:
frm Jul 1896 to Oct 1898 (age 14-16)
Telegraph Messenger; Devonport4
To become a telegraph messenger it was necessary to produce a birth certificate. It is known from family oral history that when his younger half brother Harry wanted to become a telegraph messenger that his request for his birth certificate caused a great deal of consternation in the family as it didn't give his father's name and thus indicated that he was illegitimate. There is no oral history which indicates that this was the case for Ernest. However, it is likely that the family's reaction would have been the same. It is likely that he started when he left school at the age of 14 and continued until just before he joined the Navy. As a telegraph messenger he would have worked six day a week and when not employed on delivering telegrams carring out such jobs as printing labels for mail bags
Enlisted:
25 Oct 1898 (age 16)
Royal Navy4
On enlistment he lied about his age and place of birth giving his date of birth as 8 March 1881 whereas he was actually born on 6 June 1882 and his place of birth as St Aubyn, Cornwall whereas he was born in St Aubyn's Ope, Devonport. To lie about age when enlisting so as to appear older was not uncommon but why he lied about his bithplace is not known. Perhaps he was afraid that someone would check up on him.
Military Enlistment:
25 Oct 1898 (age 16)
Royal Navy; Devonport, Devon4
On enlistment he lied about his age and place of birth giving his date of birth as 8 March 1881 whereas he was actually born on 6 June 1882 and his place of birth as St Aubyn, Cornwall whereas he was born in St Aubyn's Ope, Devonport. To lie about age when enlisting so as to appear older was not uncommon but why he lied about his bithplace is not known. Perhaps he was afraid that someone would check up on him.
Military Service:
frm 25 Oct 1898 to 8 Mar 1931 (age 16-48)
Having joined as a Boy Seaman Second Class he worked his way up as a rating to Petty officer which he achieved 1 April 2006. On 24 April 1908 he passed for Petty Officer (Gunner) and on 19 June 1912 as Gunner which qualified him for promotion to Warrent Officer. He was promoted to Warrent Officer as Acting Gunner on 25 June 1913. The gunnery specialisation only took the best ratings.
On promotion to Gunner he was appointed to HMS Ajax on commissioning and served in her until 6 March 2019. HMS Ajax was the last of the four ships of the King George V-class battleships to be laid down and during the time that Ernest served in her was part of the Grand Fleet. She saw action only at the Battle of Jutland on 31 May 1916. In this action the first division of the second battle squadron, commanded by Vice-Admiral Sir Martyn Jerram, consisted of HMS King George V, HMS Ajax, HMS Centurion and HMS Erin. The fourth sister ship, HMS Audacious, had been sunk by a mine on 27 October 1914. She sighted the leading ships of the battle line of the German High Seas Fleet and the German battlecruisers and fired on them. She herself received no hits; because of the number of ships involved it was not possible to establish if she made any hits on her targets. His report while serving in Ajax said he had tact, good judgement and was a good director officer. (The director controlled the main armament which in HMS Ajax consisted of ten 13.5 inch 45 calibre Mark V guns, disposed in five twin turrets all on the centre-line of the ship. The guns fired a shell weighing 1,400 pounds, and the maximum rate of fire was two rounds per gun per minute, although to allow for the spotting of the fall of shot one round per minute was more usual.)
He was promoted to Chief Gunner on 2 Jun 1923 and to Lieutenant on retirement on 3 March1931.
Census:
31 Mar 1901 (age 18)
HMS Higflyer7
He was serving as an Ordinary Seaman.
Witness:
9 Oct 1907 (age 25)
Ernest witnessed the Marriage of Henry Northcott Luscombe and Ellen Maud Hawkins
Parent:
16 Oct 1908 (age 26)
Baptism of son Leslie James
Parent:
30 Dec 1915 (age 33)
Baptism of daughter Winifred Doreen
Death:
27 Apr 1952 (age 69)
Cause: a pulmonary embolism and cerebral haemorrhage
Address: Plymouth
His sister-in-law Ellen Luscombe said that it was a unpleasant death but whether she was with him or she heard it from his wife Elizabeth (Lizzie) is not known.
Spouse:
Children:
Marriage:
6 Sep 1905 (age 23)
the Belmont Chapel11
Address: Devonport, Devon
Harry was the groom's half-brother and Ellen the bride's cousin. (Harry and Ellen were married 2 years later on 9 Oct 1907.).
Although the Marriage Certificate shows the name and rank of Ernest's father as John Luscombe, Yeoman of Signals R.N., Ernest was illegitimate and his father was probably James Snell. The use of the name John Luscombe as the father was a polite fiction and also occurs on the Marriage Certificate of his half-brother Harry who was also illegitimate.
Who attended the wedding apart from the witnesses is not known but it is fairly certain that the groom's mother and grandmother were there as they all lived locally. The bride's parents probably did not attend as they lived in the village of Trencreek, Columb Minor, in Cornwall and the bride was not on good terms with her father.
At the time of the marriage Ernest was serving in H.M.S. Pyramus and the bride was living with her cousin's parents Daniel and Sarah Hawkins at the Royal Western Yacht Club where Ellen's father was the steward (manager). It is virtually certain that Daniel and Sarah also attended the wedding.
Census for household:
2 Apr 1911 (age 28)
Address: 3 St Mawes Terrace
The household consisted of Ernest, his wife Elizabeth and their two year old son Leslie. They has 2 rooms in a 4 roomed house. The other 2 rooms were occupied by a family of 5. At the time Ernest was serving as a Petty Officer in HMS Vivid which was the Naval barracks in Devonport.
Thomas G H Boulden, Registrar, Certified Copy for an Entry of Marriage for Ernest James Luscombe and Elizabeth Ann Roberts, (Original). Custom Id: Entry 168 in Register 87 for Devonport; Date of Marriage6 Sep 1905Groom's NameErnest James Luscombe. Ena Luscombe.
General Register Office, Certified Copy of an Entry of Birth for Ernest James Snell Luscombe, (General Register Office ion 10 Feb 2004 n respose to Application No. COL121510). Custom Id: BXCA 228332; Cit. Date: 6 June 1882. Pat Ward.
Ibid. Cit. Date: 18 June 1882. Pat Ward.
Record of Royal Navy Service as a Rating for Ernest James Luscombe, (ADM 188/350 Image 80). Cit. Date: 25 October 1898. National Archives. Call Number: ADM.
Ibid. Cit. Date: from 25 October 1898 to 24 June 1913. National Archives. Call Number: ADM.
Record of Royal Navy Service as an Officer for Ernest James Luscombe, (ADM 196/164 Image 345). Cit. Date: from 25 May 1913 to 8 March 1931. National Archives.
1901 England Census for Ernest J. Luscombe in H. M. S. Highflyer, (Ancestry RG13/5325 Folio 70 Page 5). Cit. Date: 31 March 1901. National Archives. Call Number: RG13/5325.
Elizabeth Ann Luscombe, In Memorium Card for Ernest James Luscombe, (Personal papers). Cit. Date: 27 April 1952. Pat Ward.
Pat Ward, Death of Ernest James Luscombe, (Personal papers - electronic database for Wallace--Boyle family history). Cit. Date: 27 July 2015. Jack Ward, The Nook, Silver Street
Bampton
Tiverton
Devon
EX16 9NR. Tel: 01398332458, Email: familyhistory@blackwithies.demon.co.uk.
Record of Royal Navy Service as an Officer for Ernest James Luscombe, (ADM 196/164 Image 345). National Archives.
Thomas G H Boulden, Registrar, Certified Copy for an Entry of Marriage for Ernest James Luscombe and Elizabeth Ann Roberts, (Original). Custom Id: Entry 168 in Register 87 for Devonport; Date of marriage. Cit. Date: 6 September 1905. Ena Luscombe.
1911 England Census for Household of Ernest Luscombe in Devonport, Devon , (Find My Past). Custom Id: RG14/13037 RD278 SD2 ED10 SN453; Cit. Date: 2 April 1911. National Archives. Call Number: RG14/13037.