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Edward Price Williams (1855-1921)

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Edward Price Williams, 1894, age 38

Individual Events and Attributes

  • Birth:

  • 19 Dec 1855

  • St David's, Exeter, Devon2 3

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  • His Royal Naval engagement papers give his place and date of birth.

  • Census (living with parents):

  • 7 Apr 1861 (age 5)

  • 1861 Census - living with parents

  • Present (sibling):

  • 4 Jun 1865 (age 9)

  • Present at Baptism of his brother John

  • Census (living with mother):

  • 2 Apr 1871 (age 15)

  • 1871 Census. Living with mother

  • Military Enlistment:

  • 6 May 1871 (age 15)

  • Royal Navy; H.M.S. Implacable4

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  • Address: Devonport, Devon

    At the time of his enlistment H. M. S. Implacable was the training ship for boys at Devonport. He signed on for a 10 year engagement and as he was underage his engagement was countersigned by his mother Sarah Williams. He also signed that he was not apprenticed. However, the 1871 Census carried out only the previous month stated that he was a painter's apprentice. Whether he had been formally apprenticed or just worked for a painter (a painter's foreman lived next door) is not known.

  • Military Service:

  • btw 6 May 1871 and 31 May 1894 (age 15-38)

  • Royal Navy; various Plymouth based ships and shore establishments5

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  • After his service as a boy he became a signalman and on 1 January 1884 he signed on for another 10 years to complete his time for pension. He served in a number of ships and on 1 July 1890 was advanced to Leading Signalman on being drafted to H.M.S. Speedwell which was a newly commissioned torpedo gunboat. He appears to have made a good start but on 18 December 1890 he broke out of ship (in other words left the ship when he was supposed to be on duty) and after being on the run for a couple of weeks he was apprehended ended up in Bodmin Goal. He appears to have served time in cells in H.M.S. Vivid (the barracks at Devonport) before being returned to H. M. S. Speedwell on 10 February 1891 as a signalman. He was advance to Leading Signalman from 17 January 1892 to 23 July 1893 before being drafted to H. M. S. Royal Sovereign (a battleship) where he served out his time as a signalman before being pensioned. During his time in the Navy he also served from time to time as a ship's corporal which is a position - not a rating - assisting the Master-at-Arms

  • Census:

  • 3 Apr 1881 (age 25)

  • Plymouth, Devon6

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  • Address: 35 King Street

    However, this was only temporary accommodation as he was serving in H.M.S. Queen Adelaide as a signalman and is recorded as not being on board on the night of the census. Conditions on board were crowded and at night he would have had to sling his hammock and then make it up again in the morning so a chance to sleep ashore in a normal bed was welcome.

  • Military Discharge:

  • 31 May 1894 (age 38)

  • Royal Navy; Devonport, Devon7

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  • Address: H.M.S Vivid

  • Occupation:

  • btw Jun 1894 and Dec 1918 (age 38-63)

  • labourer in the Construction Manager's Department; Devonport Dockyard8

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  • Address: Devonport, Devon

    It is assumed that he got a job in the dockyard soon after being dischared from the Royal Navy and that he retired at the age of 60.

  • reported:

  • 7 Feb 1910 (age 54)

  • Reported death of Amelia Sleep

  • Death:

  • 1921 (age 65)

  • Devonport, Devon9

Marriage

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Spouse: Clara Amelia Luscombe, 1894, age 35

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1894, Certified Copy of an Entry of Marriage for for Edward Price Williams and Clara Amelia Luscombe

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1894, Edward and Clara Williams on Their Wedding Day

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1901, 1901 Census for Household of Edward Williams in East Stonehouse, Devon

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1911, 1911 Census for Household of Edward Williams in Devonport, Devon

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1921, 1921 Census for Household of Edward Williams

  • Spouse:

  • Clara Amelia Luscombe (1858-1927)

  • Marriage:

  • 17 Sep 1894 (age 38)

  • The Register Office10 11 12

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  • Address: Plymouth, Devon

    The relationship of witnesses to the couple is not known. The wedding was probably attended by their mothers (both their fathers were dead) but who else was there is not known.

  • Census for household:

  • 31 Mar 1901 (age 45)

  • East Stonehouse, Devon13

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  • Address: 10 Carlton Terrace

    The household consisted of Edward, his wife Clara, Clara's son Harry and Clara's mother Amelia who is recorded as Clara A. Luscombe. How this came about is not known but it is certain that neither Edward or his wife Clara would have addressed her by her Christian name so it was probably an error on Edward's part. The other error is that her birthplace is shown as Launceston and not Altarnun. Clara's other son, Ernest, joined the Royal Navy in 1899 and is away at sea. The family had 2 rooms in a 10 roomed house. 5 other families shared the remaining 8 rooms having either 1 or 2 rooms each.

     

  • Census for household:

  • 2 Apr 1911 (age 55)

  • Devonport, Devon14

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  • Address: 11 Fellowes Place

    The household consisted of Edward and his wife ClaraThey shared the house which had 10 rooms with three other families. In all 12 people (including a baby) lived there.

  • Census for household:

  • 19 Jun 1921 (age 65)

  • Stoke, Devonport, Devon15

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  • Address: 11 Fellows Place

    The household consisted of Edward and his wife Clara. They lived in 2 rooms and shared the house with 2 other families -one of 7 who had 3 rooms and the other of 3 who had 5 rooms.

Sources

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General Register Office, Civil Registration Index (England &Wales) for Marriage of Edward Price Williams and Clara Amelia Luscombe, (FMP website and FreeBMD website). Custom Id: Marriages 1894 Q3 Plymouth Vol. 5b, Page 558; General Register Office.

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1901 England Census for Household of Edward Williams in East Stonehouse, Devon, (FMP website). Custom Id: RG13/2105, Folio 60, Page 41, Schedule 361; Age and place of birth. Cit. Date: 31 March 1901. National Archives. Call Number: RG13/2105.

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Admiralty , Record of Royal Navy Service for Edward Williams, (Period, 6 May 1871 - 31 May 1894). Place and Date of Birth. Cit. Date: 6 May 1871. National Archives. Call Number: ADM 188/39.

4.

Ibid. Dat of enlistment. Cit. Date: 6 May 1871. National Archives. Call Number: ADM 188/39.

5.

Ibid. Cit. Date: between 6 May 1871 and 31 May 1894. National Archives. Call Number: ADM 188/39.

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1881 England Census for Edward Williams in Household of Frederick Hedden in Plymouth, Devon, Census Type: 1881 England, Census Place: Pltmouth, Devon, Folio: 39, Page: 21 & 22, (Ancestry website). Custom Id: RG11/2198, Folio 39, Page 22, Schedule 107 (cont); Cit. Date: 3 April 1881. National Archives. Call Number: RG11/2198.

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Admiralty , Record of Royal Navy Service for Edward Williams, (Period, 6 May 1871 - 31 May 1894). Pensioned. Cit. Date: 31 May 1894. National Archives. Call Number: ADM 188/39.

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1901 England Census for Household of Edward Williams in East Stonehouse, Devon, (FMP website). Custom Id: RG13/2105, Folio 60, Page 41, Schedule 361; Occupation. Cit. Date: 31 March 1901. National Archives. Call Number: RG13/2105.

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General Register Office, Civil Registration Index (England & Wales) for Death of Edward P. Williams, (FindMyPast website). Custom Id: Death 1921 Q3 Devonport Vol. 5b, Page 330; Cit. Date: Q3 1921. General Register Office. Call Number: Deaths.

10.

General Register Office, Certified Copy of an Entry of Marriage for Edward Price Williams and Clara Amelia Luscombe, (Issued by GRO on 29 June 2006 in response to Application No COL417724). Custom Id: MXC677465; Cit. Date: 17 September 1894. Pat Ward.

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General Register Office, Civil Registration Index (England &Wales) for Marriage of Edward Price Williams and Clara Amelia Luscombe, (FMP website and FreeBMD website). Custom Id: Marriages 1894 Q3 Plymouth Vol. 5b, Page 558; Cit. Date: Q3 1894. General Register Office.

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Photograph of Edward and Amelia Williams; Pat Ward

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1901 England Census for Household of Edward Williams in East Stonehouse, Devon, (FMP website). Custom Id: RG13/2105, Folio 60, Page 41, Schedule 361; Cit. Date: 31 March 1901. National Archives. Call Number: RG13/2105.

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1911 England Census for Household of Edward Williams in Devonport, Devon, (FMP website). Custom Id: RG14/13059; Cit. Date: 2 April 1911. National Archives. Call Number: RG14/13059.

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1921 England, Wales & Scotland census, 11 Fellows Place, Stoke, Devonport, Devon, head of household: Edward Williams, National Archives.